Beating Video Poker

broken image


Pay Table
Natural Royal Flush pays 250XFour of a Kind pays 5X
Four Deuces pays 200XFull House pays 3X
Five of a Kind pays 25XFlush pays 2X
Royal Flush (with Deuces) pays 15XStraight pays 2X
Straight Flush pays 9XThree of a Kind pays 1X
  1. Beating Video Poker Machines
  2. Child Beating Video
  3. Beating Video Poker
  • To CHANGE your bet before the draw, MAX out the bet, then click BET button 3 times. Bet will go to zero.
  • If you go broke, just use your browser's RELOAD or REFRESH button or exit the game and then return.

Deuces Wild

Probably the most common of all poker variations played online today is Deuces Wild. This draw poker game uses the normal 52 card pack, but each of the four 'two point' cards or 'deuces' may represent any card chosen by the player who holds them in their hand. This variation provides players with a greater chance of making a winning hand, and payout rates are adjusted accordingly.

Video poker is my favorite game in the casino for many reasons, but the main ones involve the math and the transparency of the game. Slot machines are the only games in the casino where you can't calculate the edge. Video poker games are like slots but with a more transparent set of odds. Beating video Poker can be more difficult than playing in a real game with other players because you must have a good hand to win and you cannot rely on bluffing. On the other hand, you also don't have to worry about losing a good hand to someone with nothing because you decided to fold. Knowing what to hold to give you a good shot at winning.

The card game of poker has more variations than any other card game played today. The transfer from traditional card game to online poker play has seen a remarkable explosion of interest in all variations of the game, and new online poker websites appear on internet websites on a regular basis.

Rule playing follows standard draw poker hand rankings, but normally a minimum hand for winning will be two pairs, or one pair of king or aces. Following the initial ante bet, each player is dealt five cards face down. Players examine their hand and select a specific number of cards to exchange. Certain house rules may set a maximum number of cards that can be replaced, although many games will permit players to replace all five cards in their hands. Once the draw is complete, players will show their hands, and payout is made according to a pre-defined schedule. Players lucky enough to hold deuces will use these as wild cards, thus greatly increasing their chances of beating the 'house'.

In addition to the standard payout, Deuces Wild poker players may also be able to gamble on a winning hand and double their payout. This is normally achieved by the dealer taking one card face up, and dealing four more face down from which the player selects one card. If the player's card is higher than the dealer's, then a double payout is made to the player. If the dealer's card is higher than the player's then the player forfeits their win. Players have a third option of gambling half of their win, and attempting to double up on the other half. If they lose out on the double, they still keep half of their initial winnings.

Video poker is a skill game that provides the thrill of slot machine with the option of using strategy to improve your chances of winning. How to Beat Video Poker Game Variations. So many versions of this game exist, it would take several thousand words just to list the titles and game choices. One thing most variants have in common is that.

Interested in playing slots online against other players around the world? Start with a Crazy Slots game.

Also Try out our multi-deck Jacks or Better.

Vlad3Tetes
I'm looking for a little direction regarding video poker (and slots, but maybe another thread?)
Right now I'm learning jacks or better strategy.
I will learn more depending on the pay tables of my local casinos.
I haven't done my scouting of the slots yet.
I have only ever played table games, thinking slots were for 'suckers'.
I'm trying to diversify, and in my research (books, radio, this site and others) I see some 'slots' are beatable. Right now I'm just looking into video poker.
Even at the best machines, I understand they are around 99% over the long run.
Is the only way to make a profit via comps / promotions?
What about progressive video poker machines? Is that even a thing?
I'm also a bit confused about ultimate x.
With the multipliers, does it make the game over 100%? It's seems like it would, but I realize in math and casino's, looks can be deceiving.
I see the wizards charts show the same 99% for ultimate X, So this May be a stupid question..
I see you can play at over 100% when in vulture mode, but that's a few hands here and there.
I know I will have to get all the pay tables to see if they can be beat. I will be doing that over the next week or 2. I want to make sure before I learn other strategies.
I realize I sound like a noob, and I am when it comes to slots.
I know I have a lot of work ahead of me, I'm in no rush. Slots are a foreign concept.
I figured some responses can help me learn at a quicker pace. Where and what to look for.
Any advice, ideas, suggestions or direction is appreciated, thanks.
AxiomOfChoice
IMO a 99% video poker game is not very good at most places. Look for something over 99.5%. These can be good with the right freeplay or promotions.
IMO this is the problem with DDB: it has no good pay tables. It's my favorite game, but 9/6 is crap and 10/6 is too good to be offered at a denom that's worth playing.
RS
I believe there are 3 'ways' to beat the machines.
1] Mailers -- You're playing a game where you expect to lose some small amount (9/6 JoB has a -0.46% EV), then get a bunch of free play offers back in mailers. This is likely the most common. For example, you might expect to lose $200 but you expect to get $1,000 in free-play coupons in the mail.
2] Progressives -- a base game [say video poker] might normally have a -0.46% EV..but if the royal pays out 5000 coins instead of 4000 coins [because other people have put $ in to up the progressive], then playing that VP game will be +EV [talking about 9/6 JOB].
3] Grind -- Some games along with promotions have a return greater than 100%. Most (all?) reward clubs give cashback or free-play based on play, for example, one chain near me has a 0.33% cashback. They might have a multiplier day where they have 0.66% cashback or 1% cashback (or more!), along with a promo to win a car, or win $10,000 at the end of a month or w/e.
Ultimate X basically works like this: You can make an extra wager on the game to allow you to have a multiplier. Say you get a winning hand of a flush, your next hand will be given a 9x multiplier or some kind of multiplier (a high pair wil give a 2x multiplier). Sometimes these multipliers are left behind from other players. Yeah, very few hands and rare to find. :(
AxelWolf
;) ..
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Ibeatyouraces
deleted
AxelWolf

;) ..

Do they have casinos in Romanian?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Vlad3Tetes
Unfortunately, we don't have much for comps, promos and mailers around here. The 'best' I have seen so far is 7x points on a certain day. I will have to check more into this to see if they offer slots players any incentives. That confirms my fear that a lot of the 'profit' comes from promos, comps etc. Is that how it is for all slots? Any better suggestions slot-wise if the 'freebies' prove fruitless?
Mission146
It looks like you're looking for a lot of direction, but fortunately, you've come to the right place!
Let's just worry about Video Poker right now, advantage play on slots is far more complicated.


Right now I'm learning jacks or better strategy.


Very good. Jacks or Better is an excellent first Optimal strategy to learn as there are many games where the strategy is close to JoB, so you basically play JoB strategy with some exceptions. Examples include, Bonus Poker, Double Bonus, Double-Double, Triple-Double funky super ultra-stupid Two Pair sucks poker..etc
Okay, the last one is not a thing.just not yet.
The thing about games such as Deuces Wild, and my personal favorite, Joker Poker, is that the strategies don't lend themselves well to other games because there aren't that many games much like them..other than Variants of those games themselves.
There are simply more games that are some spin on Jacks or Better, which makes it a prudent first strategy to learn.
Quote:

I will learn more depending on the pay tables of my local casinos.
I haven't done my scouting of the slots yet.

Beating

Good, paytables are obviously very important, so it's good that you would focus on that. As far as slots go, just worry about learning an Optimal Video Poker strategy first and seeing if there are any Video Poker games you can play positively. I do suggest that you look for advantage slot plays, in time, but they are very complicated and you will spend more time watching (and taking notes) than you will actually playing, in the beginning.

I have only ever played table games, thinking slots were for 'suckers'.


They are for suckers, but they are also for advantage players, they're even for suckers making an advantage play without knowing it.
Quote:

I'm trying to diversify, and in my research (books, radio, this site and others) I see some 'slots' are beatable. Right now I'm just looking into video poker.


Like I said, good starting point. For all but the most obvious machines, determining slot, 'AP points,' is an extremely boring (but occasionally very rewarding) process. Perhaps you should see if there are Video Keno progressives where you are from, do your math, push a button, drink lots of coffee (or alcohol, if free) and rack up those points while playing at a positive expectation. Variance is freakin' nasty on VK, though, so the less x/x you have to hit while at an advantage, the better for reducing Variance.

Even at the best machines, I understand they are around 99% over the long run.


I don't know where you are from, so I don't know if that is true.
Quote:

Is the only way to make a profit via comps / promotions?


Could be, depending on where you are from. Also, focus on points multiplier days, for me, points multiplier days put a 98.44xxx% machine slightly over 100% before I even look at mailers or promotions. Shame it's only one day per week.

Beating Video Poker Machines

What about progressive video poker machines? Is that even a thing?


They are a thing, use one of the calculators on the WoO site and change the number of credits rewarded for the Progressive(s) as appropriate to get your new overall return. Beware of linked Progressives, stand-alone Progressives will have more value as you are the only one who can hit the Progressive because you are the only one playing it.
Let's say there are three other people playing a linked RF progressive and the increase in units won is 600 units, my value on that (assuming they are equally skilled players, and equally fast) is 150 units, so you do the math based on the additional 150 units, not 600.

Child Beating Video

Quote:

With the multipliers, does it make the game over 100%? It's seems like it would, but I realize in math and casino's, looks can be deceiving.


Beating video poker machines

Good, paytables are obviously very important, so it's good that you would focus on that. As far as slots go, just worry about learning an Optimal Video Poker strategy first and seeing if there are any Video Poker games you can play positively. I do suggest that you look for advantage slot plays, in time, but they are very complicated and you will spend more time watching (and taking notes) than you will actually playing, in the beginning.

I have only ever played table games, thinking slots were for 'suckers'.


They are for suckers, but they are also for advantage players, they're even for suckers making an advantage play without knowing it.
Quote:

I'm trying to diversify, and in my research (books, radio, this site and others) I see some 'slots' are beatable. Right now I'm just looking into video poker.


Like I said, good starting point. For all but the most obvious machines, determining slot, 'AP points,' is an extremely boring (but occasionally very rewarding) process. Perhaps you should see if there are Video Keno progressives where you are from, do your math, push a button, drink lots of coffee (or alcohol, if free) and rack up those points while playing at a positive expectation. Variance is freakin' nasty on VK, though, so the less x/x you have to hit while at an advantage, the better for reducing Variance.

Even at the best machines, I understand they are around 99% over the long run.


I don't know where you are from, so I don't know if that is true.
Quote:

Is the only way to make a profit via comps / promotions?


Could be, depending on where you are from. Also, focus on points multiplier days, for me, points multiplier days put a 98.44xxx% machine slightly over 100% before I even look at mailers or promotions. Shame it's only one day per week.

Beating Video Poker Machines

What about progressive video poker machines? Is that even a thing?


They are a thing, use one of the calculators on the WoO site and change the number of credits rewarded for the Progressive(s) as appropriate to get your new overall return. Beware of linked Progressives, stand-alone Progressives will have more value as you are the only one who can hit the Progressive because you are the only one playing it.
Let's say there are three other people playing a linked RF progressive and the increase in units won is 600 units, my value on that (assuming they are equally skilled players, and equally fast) is 150 units, so you do the math based on the additional 150 units, not 600.

Child Beating Video

Quote:

With the multipliers, does it make the game over 100%? It's seems like it would, but I realize in math and casino's, looks can be deceiving.


Looks can be deceiving, for true beauty is found within, and the only beauty to be found on the Variance Nightmare known as Ultimate X is when people leave multipliers behind. Play five credits per hand in this situation, not ten, don't play UX otherwise unless you have Optimal Strategy down and it is the highest paying thing in the casino. Mistakes are easy to make, and again, just thinking about the Variance makes me a little queasy.
If you want to play a fun multipliers game that slightly increases the overall return (at least in Nevada, by law) compared to the Base Pay with not such a huge increase in Variance, play Super Times Pay. There are also no strategy changes with Super Times, the Expected Value of each hand simply is whatever it is multiplied by the multiplier value.

I see the wizards charts show the same 99% for ultimate X, So this May be a stupid question.. Come bet in craps.
I see you can play at over 100% when in vulture mode, but that's a few hands here and there.
I know I will have to get all the pay tables to see if they can be beat. I will be doing that over the next week or 2. I want to make sure before I learn other strategies.


Yeah, vulture, that's what you want to do. I wouldn't play it otherwise unless it was the highest returning game in the casino by at least .5%
Quote:

I figured some responses can help me learn at a quicker pace. Where and what to look for.
Any advice, ideas, suggestions or direction is appreciated, thanks.


Feel free to ask some more Video Poker questions, or Video Keno questions. You can even ask slot questions, but if you don't fully understand Video Poker yet, then I wouldn't get into worrying about positive slot plays, except the must-hit machines. The other stuff is just too complicated, and like I said, it's a lot of watching and very little doing..and you can watch someone play a machine for thousands of spins, based on a hunch, just to realize there's not much of anything there.
AxelWolf

It looks like you're looking for a lot of direction, but fortunately, you've come to the right place!
Let's just worry about Video Poker right now, advantage play on slots is far more complicated.
Very good. Jacks or Better is an excellent first Optimal strategy to learn as there are many games where the strategy is close to JoB, so you basically play JoB strategy with some exceptions. Examples include, Bonus Poker, Double Bonus, Double-Double, Triple-Double funky super ultra-stupid Two Pair sucks poker..etc
Okay, the last one is not a thing.just not yet.
The thing about games such as Deuces Wild, and my personal favorite, Joker Poker, is that the strategies don't lend themselves well to other games because there aren't that many games much like them..other than Variants of those games themselves.
There are simply more games that are some spin on Jacks or Better, which makes it a prudent first strategy to learn.
Good, paytables are obviously very important, so it's good that you would focus on that. As far as slots go, just worry about learning an Optimal Video Poker strategy first and seeing if there are any Video Poker games you can play positively. I do suggest that you look for advantage slot plays, in time, but they are very complicated and you will spend more time watching (and taking notes) than you will actually playing, in the beginning.
They are for suckers, but they are also for advantage players, they're even for suckers making an advantage play without knowing it.
Like I said, good starting point. For all but the most obvious machines, determining slot, 'AP points,' is an extremely boring (but occasionally very rewarding) process. Perhaps you should see if there are Video Keno progressives where you are from, do your math, push a button, drink lots of coffee (or alcohol, if free) and rack up those points while playing at a positive expectation. Variance is freakin' nasty on VK, though, so the less x/x you have to hit while at an advantage, the better for reducing Variance.
I don't know where you are from, so I don't know if that is true.
Could be, depending on where you are from. Also, focus on points multiplier days, for me, points multiplier days put a 98.44xxx% machine slightly over 100% before I even look at mailers or promotions. Shame it's only one day per week.
They are a thing, use one of the calculators on the WoO site and change the number of credits rewarded for the Progressive(s) as appropriate to get your new overall return. Beware of linked Progressives, stand-alone Progressives will have more value as you are the only one who can hit the Progressive because you are the only one playing it.
Let's say there are three other people playing a linked RF progressive and the increase in units won is 600 units, my value on that (assuming they are equally skilled players, and equally fast) is 150 units, so you do the math based on the additional 150 units, not 600.
Looks can be deceiving, for true beauty is found within, and the only beauty to be found on the Variance Nightmare known as Ultimate X is when people leave multipliers behind. Play five credits per hand in this situation, not ten, don't play UX otherwise unless you have Optimal Strategy down and it is the highest paying thing in the casino. Mistakes are easy to make, and again, just thinking about the Variance makes me a little queasy.
If you want to play a fun multipliers game that slightly increases the overall return (at least in Nevada, by law) compared to the Base Pay with not such a huge increase in Variance, play Super Times Pay. There are also no strategy changes with Super Times, the Expected Value of each hand simply is whatever it is multiplied by the multiplier value.
Yeah, vulture, that's what you want to do. I wouldn't play it otherwise unless it was the highest returning game in the casino by at least .5%
Feel free to ask some more Video Poker questions, or Video Keno questions. You can even ask slot questions, but if you don't fully understand Video Poker yet, then I wouldn't get into worrying about positive slot plays, except the must-hit machines. The other stuff is just too complicated, and like I said, it's a lot of watching and very little doing..and you can watch someone play a machine for thousands of spins, based on a hunch, just to realize there's not much of anything there.

lol
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Vlad3Tetes

Beating Video Poker

Thanks for all the ammo, mission. Thanks for all the responses. It gives me more of a target when I check out my casinos VP games.




broken image